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Hi everyone,

First time post here. Owned two LS400 in the 90's so I'm familiar with Lexus quality etc. Switched to another brand for awhile, and now considering the new LS460.

Since there is such a shortage of LS460 and resulting higher prices, should I wait until next fall/winter to buy 2008 model? Obviously, Lexus is keeping inventory low to keep prices/profits high. Can't blame them at all. Will the production increase next year?

Since there is such a shortage of cars, there isn't much to look at in dealer stock. What is your experience with ML system vs standard audio.

Next week I intend to start the field shopping but have to go to three different dealers to look at three different colors.

Thank you, (almost forgot - happy fathers day)

Joe

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tough question to answer. at the time we bought (last week - 06-12-07) the dealer had 1 73k car, and 1 460L. i did not want the long and the 73k was the right color. since this was our 6th lexus (we started buying in 94), the dealership was very accomodating and their price was extremely aggressive.

i can tell you this. i know it is still early, but as good as my 2003 ls430 was, this car is even better.

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Since there is such a shortage of cars, there isn't much to look at in dealer stock. What is your experience with ML system vs standard audio.

Probably a bit late to respond to your question since you’ve already taken the plunge but …

I can’t compare the ML stereo to the standard stereo but I can compare it to the 2001 version in our old LS430. We were impressed with the 2001 ML system but didn’t use it all that much on road trips. There was just enough wind noise and road noise to prevent us from listening comfortably. We don’t play music that loudly (at least we don’t when my wife is in the car) and a comfortable sound level didn’t override the other noise enough.

The 2007 ML is very different. The car, of course, seems much quieter. But, OMG, the stereo with surround mode on is absolutely enveloping at our normal comfort levels. Perhaps it’s the doubled wattage or the increased number of speakers or whatever, but it’s fantastic.

I was in a high end stereo shop 15 years ago shopping for some mid-range speakers. We got a friendly clerk who agreed to show us the "top of the line high end system" for comparison. $30K worth. He played a jazz piano CD, some Beach Boys and some soft rock (our target sounds). He also had his favorite demo CD, the Commodor's "Night Shift". Great song with a lot of interesting percussion. The high end system _really_ blew us away with the percussion. Like nothing I ever heard before or since ... until the 2007 ML came along. It sounds better.

It’s too bad we had to get the Nav system and the stupid automatic parking options to get the ML stereo. We will rarely use the Nav system (regardless of whether or not it is locked out) and the auto parking is so lame as to be embarrassing.

But we definitely LOVE the ML.

Silver Bullitt

PS: Just got the license plates today. Ouch! "$73K – the gift that keeps on giving." Glad we negotiatswed them down to $65K for it.

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Since there is such a shortage of cars, there isn't much to look at in dealer stock. What is your experience with ML system vs standard audio.

Probably a bit late to respond to your question since you’ve already taken the plunge but …

I can’t compare the ML stereo to the standard stereo but I can compare it to the 2001 version in our old LS430. We were impressed with the 2001 ML system but didn’t use it all that much on road trips. There was just enough wind noise and road noise to prevent us from listening comfortably. We don’t play music that loudly (at least we don’t when my wife is in the car) and a comfortable sound level didn’t override the other noise enough.

The 2007 ML is very different. The car, of course, seems much quieter. But, OMG, the stereo with surround mode on is absolutely enveloping at our normal comfort levels. Perhaps it’s the doubled wattage or the increased number of speakers or whatever, but it’s fantastic.

I was in a high end stereo shop 15 years ago shopping for some mid-range speakers. We got a friendly clerk who agreed to show us the "top of the line high end system" for comparison. $30K worth. He played a jazz piano CD, some Beach Boys and some soft rock (our target sounds). He also had his favorite demo CD, the Commodor's "Night Shift". Great song with a lot of interesting percussion. The high end system _really_ blew us away with the percussion. Like nothing I ever heard before or since ... until the 2007 ML came along. It sounds better.

It’s too bad we had to get the Nav system and the stupid automatic parking options to get the ML stereo. We will rarely use the Nav system (regardless of whether or not it is locked out) and the auto parking is so lame as to be embarrassing.

But we definitely LOVE the ML.

Silver Bullitt

PS: Just got the license plates today. Ouch! "$73K – the gift that keeps on giving." Glad we negotiatswed them down to $65K for it.

Most Lexus dealers I contacted had a very limited supply of LS models. Most without ML system. Amazingly, a new Lexus dealer opened recently not far from my home, and they had a nice selection of LS's mostly long wheel base. So I was able to get about 5% off the car...the dealer took the deal to the very last day of the month. You're right about the parking system. If you can't park it you shouldn't be driving the car or any car for that matter. Since all the LS's had the PG system I believe Lexus is dictating to the dealers to offer this option so to pay for the R&D.

The ML stereo system is fabulous. I could stay in the car all day just listening to the music. Almost did yesterday and drew the battery down.

The Nav. system is also fabulous. I use it all the time in my cars. The Lexus Nav. system is superior to all others that I'm familiar with.

I haven't completed the novel of a owners manual (largest that I ever encountered). Overall, I love the car.

Enjoy your ride.

Joe

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