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So I got 18" rims with 40 series tires. They look great with my bodykit and other mods. I mean the car just looks damn good! Except that the new rims and tires didnt feel up the wheel well very good so I decided to lower it. I lowered it about 2 inches in the front and just over 2 inches in the back. Now it sits really good but I ran into a problem, my rear tires were getting eat up really fast, they didnt last me no time. So I went and got new tires and got my car aligned. Well the dude said he couldn't get it aligned enough so it would still eat up my tires, I get it, I wasn't sure if just getting them aligned would completly solve the problem He really ticked me off because he also said the following:

(1) the front end of my car was lower than the back end (no its not!). He said the back was fine. (Okay if the back is fine but the front is the problem, why were my rear tires getting eatin up but the front tires are totally fine??)

(2)I needed to raise my car atleast 3 inches to fix the problem (that would mean I need to raise it above stock heighth! that doesnt make sense)

(3) I asked about putting an aftermarket camber kit on it, he told me my car already had a camber kit on it and he pointed to the balljoint (Omg thats a balljoint you idiot not a camber kit!!)

(4)After we contradicted everything he said he changed his reasoning on the problem, he said, "Well uh um its a Lexus, it's just different". (What?! It has tie rods, ball joints, struts, etc. just like any other car, its not that different!)

Then my dad says, "Lets take it to this other guy". This old country guy really made me mad. This is what he said about my car,

(1) Whoever put springs on this car should be shot (or maybe this country bumkin should be shot!)

(2) You've ruined this car, it's a piece of sh*t, you should try to find someone to give it away to because you couldn't sell it for $25. (my car is not a POS because I lowered it!)

(3) This car's been lowere atleast 4 or 5 inches (no it hasnt you idiot!)

(4) There is no way to put the factory springs back on, you won't find anybody who would do it (Yea okay! I could put them back on!)

(5) Anybody who gets rims ruins their car, you're rims don't have a lip, they can't be aligned. (Wow, my stock 16's didnt have a lip. Millions of people have rims and we're all doing just fine, besides I've already had them aligned twice during the year I've had them)

The guy at the local performance shop said those guys were idiots. He said other people have lowered Lexus' and they road race and drift Lexus SC300's so it has to work. He said he'll look up camber kits for my car.

I am really angry because I know there is a way to get this to work. And I'm tired of these people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about and that I'm stupid, and telling me I don't know anything about cars because I'm a chick.

So I'm wondering if anybody has lowered their Lexus. Did you get a camber kit for it? What brand? I just want ya'lls input on this. I'm just getting really fed up so any input is greatly appreciated

Sorry this was so long. Thanks for your time

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well i put 17s and still have a wheel balance problem. you need to find someone that does really good wheel balancing. theres more to it than just alignement. you should look around for a professional. it might cost alot but the job will get done.

A car is mechanical anything on it can be fixed or adjusted. hek u can turn a Punto into a drag car and theres no questions about it. You mechanic plays a big role. think of him as a DR. would you want open heart surgery from a quack, or some million dollar New york city specialisti.

Moral = FIND A NEW MECHANIC, if ur in the ny area i can recomend afew people. good luck.

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so wait a minute i put 17s on my car and the springs arent that great on my car so the car sits lower, my tires got eaten up soooooo quickly this is because i need a chamber kit?

i put the factory rims on now cause of that problem but i wanna put the 17s back on, should i invest in this chamber kit too?

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I honestly can't believe all the problems you've had with your car. From the sounds of it, you just need a camber kit. There is one thing that I read that COULD be possible. That your front end is lower than the rear. Most lowering kits are made to "level" the car, but there are some out there that have different lowering levels for front and rear. If your car has a factory "rake" to it, and you put springs on it that lower 1" (for example) then your front end would still sit lower than the front.

With that being said, I honestly just think that your mechanics, or whoever you took the car to are idiots. And don't despair about being a chick and into cars. My sister had to fight for respect in the auto world around here. She's starting to get it, it just takes one time to prove them wrong and you're fine.

Hope you get the problem resolved! :)

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The rear tires are getting eaten up? On the outside or on the inside? What is the offset and width? They must be rubbing either the shock assy or fender. A 9.5+ wide tire should run a 35 series in back.

Sadistic - when did you go 1jz? What are the specs. Shoot me a IM sometime. I'm considering selling my carbon fiber stuff if you know anyone interested.

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As you can see, I'm a new member here. BUT, not new to Toyotas. I have an MR2 with a V6 that I personally swapped in, and my MR2 is lowered. As a new owner of my SC300, I'll admit that I'm a little green in some areas of the SC, so if I'm wrong about the following statements, I'll apologize now. :)

When the car is lowered, most of us know that the camber angle will change. The solution is often camber kits, but Crash Bolts will accomplish a similar fix, for a LOT less money.

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The SC has camber adjustment in OEM form. 2" drop or less is no problem to adjust toe. Below that, well, you get what you get. I'm not even sure if there are camber kits for these cars. I'm not familiar with crash bolts but I'm picturing an awful hard ride.

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