bose217 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Im going to change my shocks.I decided to go with the KYB GR-2.I heard those are the closest to stock,however,every place i call recommends Tokico and say KYB are a poor choice for replacements over OEM and that the Tokicos are far better.Whats up with that?I checked the prices and they are almost exactly the same. Anyone know whats going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92Lex Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Are you going with 5-way adjustables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Are you going with 5-way adjustables? ← no i wanted the KYB GR-2 not the AGX or whatever.I dont want adjustables i just want a nice ride and i dont race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92Lex Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 You could set the 5 way adjustables to be real soft you know. With the regular ones you can't dampen the ride. Anways, I like Tokico...I had 5 way adjustables on an Integra that I used to have. They worked real good because sometimes I just wanted a softer ride. Tokico's are known for their quality shocks/struts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 You could set the 5 way adjustables to be real soft you know. With the regular ones you can't dampen the ride. Anways, I like Tokico...I had 5 way adjustables on an Integra that I used to have. They worked real good because sometimes I just wanted a softer ride. Tokico's are known for their quality shocks/struts. ← so the Illumina ones on there softest setting are softer that the regular Tokico HPs? Are the Illuminas softer than the KYBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDOwen2 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Don't know if this helps but I changed out the Bilstein's for KYB's on my Corvette and a lot of the rattles and squeeks stopped. Rides a lot smoother now. Then there's these:Tokico's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Don't know if this helps but I changed out the Bilstein's for KYB's on my Corvette and a lot of the rattles and squeeks stopped. Rides a lot smoother now. Then there's these:Tokico's ← Yeah but those Tokicos on ebay are the HP.Are the HPs stiffer than the Illuminas on the softest setting?Thats what im trying to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDOwen2 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Shocks. Appears to me that the Illuminas are adjustable, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gage Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Im going to change my shocks.I decided to go with the KYB GR-2.I heard those are the closest to stock,however,every place i call recommends Tokico and say KYB are a poor choice for replacements over OEM and that the Tokicos are far better.Whats up with that?I checked the prices and they are almost exactly the same.Anyone know whats going on? ← i replaced mine w silver colored kybs from the tire rack & it feels just like factory struts. the original ones on the front had 160,000 miles on this 92 model sc400. there was a lot of noise coming from the front over speed bumps that went away when i replaced them w the kybs. i guess they were really worn out. i read somewhere that shocks dont last more than 100,000 miles or should be replaced then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92Lex Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Yes, the non adjustable's (HP) are stiffer than the Illumina's on the softest setting. Illumina's on the softest setting (1) isn't going to be exactly like a factory ride but it comes pretty close, plus you'll benefit from better handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Yes, the non adjustable's (HP) are stiffer than the Illumina's on the softest setting. Illumina's on the softest setting (1) isn't going to be exactly like a factory ride but it comes pretty close, plus you'll benefit from better handling. ← Thanks for the help.I think i will go with Tokico instead of KYB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_toy Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 From what I've heard, the non-adjustables are usually around a #3-4 setting on the adjustables. Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 i would get the kyb's i love mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 i would get the kyb's i love mine ← how is the ride with the KYBs? Like how soft and which KYbs do u have and why do u love them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadistic Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 GR-2's are NOT like setting 3 or 4 on adjustable shocks. On AGX's setting 1 is far stiffer than any stock ride that I've ever felt. I would go with the KYB's too. I've ran quite a few sets of them, and they are an extremely nice ride. They extremely responsive, and give excellent feedback. We just put a set of GR-2's on a customer's Celica, and he about flipped over the difference. Most of the places are probably suggesting Tokico's over the KYB's so strongly because they have a larger profit margin over them. I know I get Tokico's cheaper than I do KYB's, so if I was out to make money, I would do the same thing. I'm not saying Tokico's aren't a good shock, or that one is better than the other. All I'm saying is I've run KYB's for years. I've riden in a couple vehicles with Tokico's in them, and I greatly prefer the KYB's if it was my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungrin Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 GR-2's are NOT like setting 3 or 4 on adjustable shocks. On AGX's setting 1 is far stiffer than any stock ride that I've ever felt. I would go with the KYB's too. I've ran quite a few sets of them, and they are an extremely nice ride. They extremely responsive, and give excellent feedback. We just put a set of GR-2's on a customer's Celica, and he about flipped over the difference. Most of the places are probably suggesting Tokico's over the KYB's so strongly because they have a larger profit margin over them. I know I get Tokico's cheaper than I do KYB's, so if I was out to make money, I would do the same thing. I'm not saying Tokico's aren't a good shock, or that one is better than the other. All I'm saying is I've run KYB's for years. I've riden in a couple vehicles with Tokico's in them, and I greatly prefer the KYB's if it was my car. ← So KYB GR-2s are softer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 think of the gr-2's as a stock shock but firm enough to take a corner and not roll off the road ilke most oem lexus shocks the bound and rebound is valved nice and soft for bumps but stiffen up when in a corner nicely they are for spiriteddriving not track driving. i i was going to go for a performance set up i would just get a set of teins as they are real smooth but amazing for lowering without breaking your back over bumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose217 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 think of the gr-2's as a stock shock but firm enough to take a corner and not roll off the road ilke most oem lexus shocksthe bound and rebound is valved nice and soft for bumps but stiffen up when in a corner nicely they are for spiriteddriving not track driving. i i was going to go for a performance set up i would just get a set of teins as they are real smooth but amazing for lowering without breaking your back over bumps. ← are the KYBs softer the the Illuminas on thier softest setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 no clue, but i hate tokico's they are way to stiff for my liking. they have about 1/4 of bound before it goes into full rebound so it is annoying for bumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungrin Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Well i actually bought a set of Tokico blues and they are sitting in my house.Im scared to put them on or return them.IM scared it will make my car too harsh to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 i hope yours are valved different than the ones in a camry i drove it may be me but i want a lexus to drive like one , my car may look slightly sporty but i like a smooth ride, i have a beater civic for when i want to really drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungrin Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 i went to the shop today to put my Tokicos on cuz my car was runnin like a dump truck and low and behold the struts that were removed on my car from the previous owner were KYB GR-2 struts.I can already tell the difference from driving for like 10 minutes. the old GR-2 struts must have been no good but they didnt look old at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKperformance Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 that is great to hear it drives better already, but you live in the tri borough with some of the worst roads ever paved. It isn't to hard to blow a shock out their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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