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#16 GOLDPLATER

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:41 PM

Having 2 Lexus vehicles, I can attest to the front end chips as well as the bra issue. My 04 LS front
end is beat up pretty bad with chips I rcv'd over the past few years. My son's Acura front end looks
great and he drives highways more than I do. It is not an aerodynamic issue at all IMO. When I bought
my GS, I purchased a Colgan bra. These are custom designed and fitted for a specific vehicle. While it
did provide protection for the front end, it was often a pain to remove and replace everytime I wanted
to wash the car. I personally feel a bra has no place on a vehicle like the LS. If I decide to get a new
LS, I certainly am going to negotiate the clear front end cover into the deal.

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:08 AM

Correct Steve...here is the info..but my friend has no chips and drives 95 everyday..We know the lexus paint is softer from past experiences.

http://www.azonano.c...s.asp?newsID=45


Yup the ceramiclear paint has nanoparticles in the clearcoat that bond during the curing process. I've seen it in the shows and on the road and it looks remarkable. There is also a 'liquid metal' finish that they are putting on special edition CL's that's amazing; i saw it at the MB booth at fashion week this year and it's really really cool.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 03:14 PM

Well the ClearBra which they were trying to sell you is an aftermarket option. Many people wouldn't like it and that is why Lexus does not install it factory. I would really recommend you get it though, not only will it make you feel better because your car will be mint and really is worth a lot of money, but it will increase resale value when you end up selling the car in a couple years. Until then tho, just get some touch up paint and try to do it yourself and save some cash. I would also recommend not going through a Lexus dealer because they mark up the clearbras. try to find a, autobahn installer that is direct.


It is my understanding that this clear coating only covers like half the front of the car. My car is black and I am really concerned that you will be able to see the line where it stops. And, like I said before, it makes me mad that I even have to worry about this. Lexus should put a thicker coat of paint on the front end to prevent excessive chipping. This is not something you expect from a "luxury car".



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Posted 29 August 2007 - 03:17 PM

Having 2 Lexus vehicles, I can attest to the front end chips as well as the bra issue. My 04 LS front
end is beat up pretty bad with chips I rcv'd over the past few years. My son's Acura front end looks
great and he drives highways more than I do. It is not an aerodynamic issue at all IMO. When I bought
my GS, I purchased a Colgan bra. These are custom designed and fitted for a specific vehicle. While it
did provide protection for the front end, it was often a pain to remove and replace everytime I wanted
to wash the car. I personally feel a bra has no place on a vehicle like the LS. If I decide to get a new
LS, I certainly am going to negotiate the clear front end cover into the deal.




I have the LS460 the clear bra had to be put on 3 times before all the wrinkles were smoothed out- I have had my car since October- so it was the first one in my area to have the clear bra- finally got it right. Then I had a bubble like area on the front bumper not under ther clear bra- that the paint actully peeled. Dealer had to re-paint.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 05:35 PM

Thats just poor installation technique. If you have a competent installer that won't happen.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:32 PM

I agree that it has everything to do with where you drive. I had an Acura (04 TL) and the front end chipped like crazy. I had to have the bumper repainted twice, then I finally got a clear bra installed, which helped a lot. I didn't get the hood portion done, which eliminated the visible line (or the most visible of the lines). The front bumpers of these cars (especially the TL) has a lot of exposed paint. If you drive on a road/freeway that has a lot of trucks, particularly gravel trucks, then you really don't have a prayer at keeping your paint pristine, unless you get a clear bra.

I bought my current LS CPO, and there are already a few minor chips on the front bumper. I haven't really considered getting a clear bra installed, since those chips will be underneath, however after reading this post, I'm reconsidering... :)

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:58 PM

I would get the dealer to install it for FREE>
Why in the world would they do that?
In Canada ALL LS models are covered in 3m clear bras from Lexus Canada in Toronto before being delivered to the dealerships. So even if it comes from Japan and arrives in Vancouver to be sold there . It still has to go to Toronto before being shipped back to Vancouver to be delivered finally.

Lexus know the paint is soft which is why it is mandatory to have a clear bra on all of them.
I know i will never have a car without it again but if i bought one new with so many issues of paint it would need to be addressed.

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:30 PM

I would get the dealer to install it for FREE>
Why in the world would they do that?
In Canada ALL LS models are covered in 3m clear bras from Lexus Canada in Toronto before being delivered to the dealerships. So even if it comes from Japan and arrives in Vancouver to be sold there . It still has to go to Toronto before being shipped back to Vancouver to be delivered finally.

Lexus know the paint is soft which is why it is mandatory to have a clear bra on all of them.
I know i will never have a car without it again but if i bought one new with so many issues of paint it would need to be addressed.


Do you think it makes sense to add the clear bra even if there are a few rock chips already on the paint? It's by no means horrible, but it would help prevent any more...

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 08:36 PM

Absolutely. Have the chips professionally touched up and install the clear bra on top.

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:45 PM

agreed

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:17 AM

I would get the dealer to install it for FREE>
Why in the world would they do that?
In Canada ALL LS models are covered in 3m clear bras from Lexus Canada in Toronto before being delivered to the dealerships. So even if it comes from Japan and arrives in Vancouver to be sold there . It still has to go to Toronto before being shipped back to Vancouver to be delivered finally.

Lexus know the paint is soft which is why it is mandatory to have a clear bra on all of them.
I know i will never have a car without it again but if i bought one new with so many issues of paint it would need to be addressed.


Do you think it makes sense to add the clear bra even if there are a few rock chips already on the paint? It's by no means horrible, but it would help prevent any more...



Yep. That is what I am doing on Saturday. The place I am bringing my car to to told me to bring my touch up paint and they would take care of the existing chips before installing the clear bra. I am getting the entire hood, bumper and mirrors done. I am looking forward to not worrying about this anymore.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 08:58 PM

The new s550 has a chiproof armour over the entire car. Amazing..and the car I drive and speak about is from South Florida. Lexus needs to catch up in that arena. No bull, just fact. We know where bras belong and I for one don't want one on my car even though she is pretty...:whistles:


Its not a "chiproof armor" its called Ceramiclear and its simply a harder clearcoat. It really doesn't do much to resist chipping, its designed to resist carwash scratching. Its is nonetheless very cool.

If it makes you feel better Delray, I saw a black LS460 with a clear bra today and I had to look twice before I noticed it.


I found a company in Boca Raton (Auto Super Shield) that has different options for the clear bra. One covers the entire hood (not just half), the front bumper and mirrors. So, there would be no line to see. It is going to cost a lot more but I think it is worth it.

One cool thing that I learned from Auto Super Shield is that it can be taken off down the road. I was told that a lot of people choose to remove it prior to trading their car in. The paint underneath is like new. At least there is an up side to this whole chipping problem.

In Canada we call it an invisable bra. I don't know about the other Lexus models but the LS460 comes with it installed. I don't know if it is installed at the factory or by Lexus Canada. It will peel of if you want to remove it so it is not just thicker clearcoat as somebody suggested. My LS460 has it and I wouldn't be without it. A friend of mine bought a BMW M5 and it was factory installed on it.
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:15 PM

I also have a 2007 LS460 and it seems like the paint is deteriorating on the hood. The color is red, so these flaws really stand out. I intend to take it back to Lexus and discuss the problem with them. I don't really believe that the paint is chipping, I think that the paint is just failing.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 11:10 PM

Can you post a picture of it?

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