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#1 newtoncd

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 08:05 PM

Just FYI, Firestone is having a sale on the Bridgestone H/L Alenza this coming weekend (3/24/07). I priced the tire today and it was $857 out the door with all of the packages; if you buy this coming weekend, the price is $701 out the door. I thought I read on here that Bridgestone is doing away with the tire, but the Firestone dealer didn't seem think that was true .... he said he has 9 in stock but he does show them on back order after that.

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:02 PM

i had the goodyear eagles two times, up to 60,000 miles. I just got the michelin energies a few days ago. they are a lot better and might be a choice to consider.

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 07:43 AM

The Alenza is a far better tire than the Michelin Energy MXV4 S8. The Alenza has a 65,000-mile treadwear warranty while the Michelin has no treadwear warranty. The Alenza has a new tread depth of 12/32 while the Michelin new tread depth is only 9/32. The Alenza is rated much better in rain and snow conditions than the Michelin. Both tires are priced about the same, but with the Firestone sale noted by newtoncd, it becomes an even better deal.

I've had the Alenzas on my wife's 2004 RX330 AWD for about 2,000 miles now and they blow the Michelins away. Keep in mind that the Alenza is a true SUV tire while the Michelin is designed for sedans and coupes. This is a no-brainer - if you want the far better tire for an SUV application, go with the Alenza....

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:42 AM

If staying with stock 235/55R18 size, I agree about the Alenza vs Michelin or Goodyear RSA. But something must be happening at Bridgestone since tha Alenza is back-ordered everywhere. If cosidering an upsize, you might look at Goodyear Response Edge in 255/55R18. Tire Rack's customer reviews of the tire all acclaim ride comfort and handling, and it's less money than the Michelins.

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 05:46 AM

What is happening at Bridgestone is that more and more customers are realizing that the Alenza is the best all-around choice for SUVs with 18-inch rims and as that initial batch of 2004/2005 vehicles are now beginning to need their first set of replacement tires, the Alenzas are outselling Bridgestone's projections to this point so the dealers and tire warehouses cannot keep them in stock. The tirerack.com ratings and survey comments have really helped to sell this tire, as has the pricing structure. Plus, Michelin is shooting themselves in the foot by not offering a tire in this particular application range with a mileage warranty. As more tire buyers get savvy and informed, they will quit purchasing tires that don't offer mileage warranties, particularly when those tires cost a small fortune (as they do in the 18-inch low profile sizes).

So much of Michelin's business plan these days is hype and marketing. Some of their tire products have really declined over the past five years or so. They still make some great tires, but they now make far too many average tires that are way overpriced and in certain applications have been overtaken by their competition. This 18-inch SUV tire arena is a perfect example of that....

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 05:10 PM

I have an update. Discount Tire called Bridgestone and according to the guys at Discount, Bridgestone confirmed they are discontinuing the Alenza. I called the Firestone store back and he said he didn't know about that, but there were 9 tires in Colorado and all the rest were on "back order".

Based upon that, I went with the YK520s from Discount Tire (60,000 mile warranty); I will report back how they are doing.

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 07:16 PM

i just want to add a little blurb here.

...if your a family guy and you dont really live in a snowy area, then go with the michelines. They look good, ride quieter than the goodyears, i hear they have get better mileage than the goodyears, and have decent traction. i still think the alenzas are too butch on this car. THey look out of place.

also want to add i was taking a sharp corner faster than i should, and with the goodyears, all they did was squeal but felt sure-footed. with the michelins, it felt like they were "buckling" and about to fall apart. lol. i guess thats the 10 dollar more price.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:30 AM

I would be very surprised if Bridgestone does indeed discontinue the Alenza tire. It is the only decent tire that Bridgestone offers in its Dueler SUV series. Perhaps they are doing so only in the 18-inch size. Newtoncd, if you obtain a reason why from your Discount Tire contacts, please post it here. I'll try to reach Bridgestone tech support in Nashville and pose the question to them. If they confirm, I'll post it here.

In response to the previous poster's comment about a tire looking too "butch", you would be foolish to decide a tire purchase based on "looks". In a high-speed accident your tires may be the only component of your vehicle that determines whether you and your passengers live or die. Don't be so superficial to reject a great tire because of how you think it looks. Do your research and make the best tire decision you can....

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 09:13 AM

Just talked with Bridgestone Tech Support in Nashville (800-847-3272) and they confirmed that there are absolutely no plans to discontinue the Alenza - it is their flagship SUV tire and they cannot build enough of them right now to satisfy worldwide consumer demand. That is the only reason why the 18-inch Alenzas are currently on backorder at most of the retailers and tire discounters who sell them. Bridgestone is attempting to ramp up production to increase their Alenza output. Hopefully they can accomplish that without diminishing the quality and performance of the tire.

Newtoncd, your contacts at Discount Tire probably fibbed to you in order to avoid losing your business. You may want to approach them with this information after you call Bridgestone Tech Support yourself to confirm what I've posted here. Sounds to me as if they owe you something for steering you into a tire that you may not have purchased otherwise....

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 02:23 PM

RX,

Here is what happened. Bridgestone started using a different product code, because the Alenza is being produced at a different plant, so when Discount Tire called, they were correct to say the tire was discontinued. They got their rep on speakerphone and I called the 800 number you provided and we cleared things up.

In the end, you are correct, the tire is still being produced and they can't keep up with demand.

I now have 4 on order (they said it could take up to 3 weeks to get them in) and they matched the Firestone price of out the door (with certificates) for $701.

Thanks again!

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 06:34 PM

its not superficial to base it on looks. I did mention in my post about buying tires that are not needed for snow. I live in a place where we just get rain, therefor, im saying to people who dont need "the best" traction to see other tires. WHose to say that any other tire will allow you to die versus the alenzas. I guess i should go buy a buick Rendevous if i didnt judge cars by their looks.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 08:06 PM

I sat the Bridgestone beside the Michelin and the tread is a bit more aggressive on the Alenza, but not by that much. The added warranty and better handing during inclement weather was a huge factor for me .... but, after two sets of Michelin's and only getting 36K apiece on them, it was time to move to something else.

If I don't like the looks of the Alenza, Discount Tire will swap them over to the Yokohama YK520 for just a bit more.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 10:55 PM

36K a piece is much better than the 30K i got with the goodyears...twice. i guess thats why i love the michelines so much. by comparison its better than what i had before.

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 07:50 AM

You just don't get it. If you'll take the time to do and understand the research, you may finally be able to comprehend what I've been trying to convey in this thread. For warranty, new tread depth, wet handling, and longevity, the MXV4 S8 is a far inferior tire when compared to the Alenza.

You may know cars, but you obviously don't know tires. As a result, you wind up doing people a disservice here with your rambling tire recommendations.

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 11:44 AM

You just don't get it. If you'll take the time to do and understand the research, you may finally be able to comprehend what I've been trying to convey in this thread. For warranty, new tread depth, wet handling, and longevity, the MXV4 S8 is a far inferior tire when compared to the Alenza.

You may know cars, but you obviously don't know tires. As a result, you wind up doing people a disservice here with your rambling tire recommendations.

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No need for personal attacks on this subject. An individual's evaluation of the "best" tire has a lot of room for what's personally important to that individual .. there are even white letter tires available for the RX.

FWIW, the Michelin's are a softer riding tire than either Alenza or Goodyear RSA, and that is an important issue for many RX owners. I chose Alenza for the reasons being stated but had to drop pressure to 30psi to improve the ride (though I would have preferred 35 for a little better handling and fuel economy). I would still like to hear from someone trying the slightly oversize 255/55R18 Goodyear Response Edge.

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