mburnickas
Feb 24 2007, 04:12 PM
miamistyle
Feb 25 2007, 08:38 PM
That has got to be the deepest glossiest paint I've seen! I've been hearing a lot on Zaino, but can't seem to find it anywhere.
SW03ES
Feb 26 2007, 12:46 PM
You have to order it online.
Lookin great MB!
mburnickas
Feb 26 2007, 04:51 PM
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You have to order it online.
Lookin great MB!
Thank guys...
miamistyle, do not forget CS is not a sub for proper base etc. That means, if you have marring, scrathes etc, you need to fix. I used CS over JW AJT, JW prime and CG 5050 wax. I wanted the look of a nuba but the sealing qualities. I like JW AJT/AJ but I think
the nuba gives a little "kick". So the CS gives the both of both words.
Oh, try time was slow since it was about 25 to 30 out.
JDK
Feb 26 2007, 07:14 PM
I've been using Zaino on my cars for about 6 years and absolutely love it!
My '04 LS430 is black and it looks detailed year 'round. My son has a bright red '98 Dodge truck that we put Zaino on last year and the paint looked absolutely WET when we finished. (This was a vehicle that hadn't see wax in over 3 years)
If you still do not believe the hype, check out the cars on their website, you will be ordering!
Rx330driver
Feb 27 2007, 10:56 PM
i just went to the website.
it seems awfully complicated. You have to remove your current wax from your car...using dawn dishwashing solution (questionable), and then buy like 10 of their products? doesnt seem like something an average joe would do. They arent cheap either...
mburnickas
Feb 28 2007, 05:02 AM
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i just went to the website.
it seems awfully complicated. You have to remove your current wax from your car...using dawn dishwashing solution (questionable), and then buy like 10 of their products? doesnt seem like something an average joe would do. They arent cheap either...
I agree. they do push they product and I think some are overstated; example: They state CS will last up to 9 month. Give me a break. You do not have to use dawn soap to remove wax. Any polish, etc will do that.
You could half as much on other products and get the same look, or better etc.
I know for me CS is good and it will be the only Zaino prodcut for me. I still will take JW prime and selant and CG5050 wax.
SW03ES
Feb 28 2007, 11:46 AM
Personally I'm not a fan of Zaino, especially on dark colored cars, but MB is right in that its not as complicated as they make it out to be.
The Dawn wash is to ensure that any oils on the paint are removed (an occasional Dawn wash won't hurt your car) because polymers like Zaino "bond" to the paint and oils interfere with that process. If you use polishes that have no fillers or oils, then the same effect is accomplished.
To me Zaino looks flat and plasticky and robs dark and especially dark metallic paints (like mine) of their depth. The pros are as follows:
1. It really does last longer than other products, but not as long as they say
2. It does provide superior protection in high temperatures since wax products can vaporize off the paint at much lower temps.
3. It is more resistant to carwash chemicals and the like.
Thats pretty much it.
djspawn00
Mar 11 2007, 12:41 AM
What do you prefer over Zaino? Klasse?
SW03ES
Mar 11 2007, 12:11 PM
I don't like Zaino or Klasse, I like Carnuaba.
djspawn00
Mar 11 2007, 06:50 PM
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I don't like Zaino or Klasse, I like Carnuaba.
just any type of Carnuaba wax?
SW03ES
Mar 15 2007, 05:36 PM
I like Pinnacle Souveran, P21S, Poorboy's Natty Wax, Meguiars #16, Collinite 476. Don't get too hung up on the products you buy, its the process thats going to get the paint in the condition it needs to be in. The eax/sealant is all just personal preference.
mburnickas
Mar 16 2007, 01:50 PM
If anyone needs like a 95% full nattys (blue & selling it) PM me. I do not use it anymore since I dislike it. I use CG5050 now.
Pinnacle Souveran was an ok price like 2 weeks ago. 2 for the price of $99. Now they are overpriced; (1) for $79.99 NOT.
But SW is right, if you wax alot, any wax will do. For me, I like detailing but not every month....

Plus some like sealants and some nubs.
SW03ES
Mar 18 2007, 05:40 PM
I don't detail every month (I detail once a year) I just throw on a coat of wax every 3-4 washes, with a good easy Carnuaba like P21S or Souveran it takes maybe 15 minutes and the car looks amazing afterwards.
LS4hundy
Mar 19 2007, 07:29 PM
So im into keeping my car clean but I must admit I dont understand some of the wax talk. I wax my car 2 maybe 3 times a year but usually keep it pretty clean by just washing it. I use any car wash soap. Is there anything I should be looking for inparticular. The sun is gonna be out soon and I would like my car to look the best it can. I have the champiegne colored ls400.
Thanks guys
mburnickas
Mar 20 2007, 01:12 PM
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So im into keeping my car clean but I must admit I dont understand some of the wax talk. I wax my car 2 maybe 3 times a year but usually keep it pretty clean by just washing it. I use any car wash soap. Is there anything I should be looking for inparticular. The sun is gonna be out soon and I would like my car to look the best it can. I have the champiegne colored ls400.
Thanks guys
Well for me, wax does not last long. I would clay surface if needed and then wax. Depending on wax, they only very little on avg. They lose slickness, shine, beading etc. I would wax it at least 4 times a year but that is me. I know I have only tried PoorBoys Nattys Blue, CG5050 and CG pro detailer for nuba's. Nattys will not hold a candle to CG5050.
I like ONR it added more shine and slickness then most soaps out there.
SW03ES
Mar 21 2007, 06:02 PM
Do some reading in the detailing forum, PLENTY of info for you to digest in there.
LSSDC1000
Jul 14 2007, 08:04 AM
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That has got to be the deepest glossiest paint I've seen! I've been hearing a lot on Zaino, but can't seem to find it anywhere.
http://www.zainostore.com I am a user and love the stuff. Recommend buying the starter kit.
mburnickas
Jul 14 2007, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(miamistyle @ Feb 25 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]229113[/snapback]
That has got to be the deepest glossiest paint I've seen! I've been hearing a lot on Zaino, but can't seem to find it anywhere.
http://www.zainostore.com I am a user and love the stuff. Recommend buying the starter kit.
There stuff is good but most are over priced and over pimped. There are better stuff for cheaper.
wacenturion
Oct 26 2007, 10:16 AM
QUOTE(mburnickas @ Jul 14 2007, 03:18 PM)

QUOTE(LSSDC1000 @ Jul 14 2007, 09:04 AM)

QUOTE(miamistyle @ Feb 25 2007, 09:38 PM)

That has got to be the deepest glossiest paint I've seen! I've been hearing a lot on Zaino, but can't seem to find it anywhere.
http://www.zainostore.com I am a user and love the stuff. Recommend buying the starter kit.
There stuff is good but most are over priced and over pimped. There are better stuff for cheaper.
Not really correct....if used properly, you use so little Zaino per application, that it is actually cheaper, or as cheap in the long run. Been using Zaino on all my vehicles for years and have found nothing as good as all of their products. You would also be amazed at what their glass cleaner does for example. The really nice thing about Zaino is, once applied it cuts the car washing time in half as most of the grime runs off when you wet the car initially. JMHO is all.
mburnickas
Oct 26 2007, 11:32 AM
I have used Zaino and will not buy again. Better products like CG, JW, Opti-seal, etc. Cheaper and better depth, shine, longevity etc. But that is me. I can get CG5050 wax too look way better then Zaino clear seal and will last more then 45 apps too.
Komail
Nov 7 2007, 08:58 PM
The ES looks brand new, did you use a buffer as well?
mburnickas
Nov 8 2007, 12:07 PM
QUOTE(Komail @ Nov 7 2007, 10:58 PM)

The ES looks brand new, did you use a buffer as well?
always...rotary 9227C makita. Been using a rotary for like 12+ year now. I love the thing. I think the base coat and CG5050 make the grade. The Zaino clear shield does not add any pop etc. Not knocking the stuff but I would not buy again. No need for it.
Nica
Nov 15 2007, 10:56 PM
mburnickas - The vehicle looks great, very nice depth to it and a wicked reflection. Sounds like you know how to detail, I have a Makita as well plus other goodies

. I too enjoy detailing my Lexus only draw back is that my Lexus is silver color and not black, black is apaint to maintain but when detailed properly it's easy to keep up...and not to mention it looks incredable.
Vehicle looks great, thank you for sharing.
mburnickas
Nov 16 2007, 11:16 AM
QUOTE(Nica @ Nov 15 2007, 11:56 PM)

mburnickas - The vehicle looks great, very nice depth to it and a wicked reflection. Sounds like you know how to detail, I have a Makita as well plus other goodies

. I too enjoy detailing my Lexus only draw back is that my Lexus is silver color and not black, black is apaint to maintain but when detailed properly it's easy to keep up...and not to mention it looks incredable.
Vehicle looks great, thank you for sharing.
Thanks man. I keep saying I will not buy another black car/truck and I keep getting sucked in! I want a green, silver or white one next.
I like the 9227 and the LC pads. Great combo.
Nica
Nov 18 2007, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(mburnickas @ Nov 16 2007, 10:16 AM)

Thanks man. I keep saying I will not buy another black car/truck and I keep getting sucked in! I want a green, silver or white one next.
I like the 9227 and the LC pads. Great combo.
I wanted to get my GX in black but my wife fell in love with silver and after driving it around for a day or two I understood why my wife liked the color. That and hides all imperfections quite well. Only draw back is that I can't get the depth or wet looks that black color vehicles get but if I detail it properly I can get some nice depth to it...well as much as I can for silver.
mburnickas
Nov 19 2007, 10:45 AM
QUOTE(Nica @ Nov 18 2007, 01:50 PM)

QUOTE(mburnickas @ Nov 16 2007, 10:16 AM)

Thanks man. I keep saying I will not buy another black car/truck and I keep getting sucked in! I want a green, silver or white one next.
I like the 9227 and the LC pads. Great combo.
I wanted to get my GX in black but my wife fell in love with silver and after driving it around for a day or two I understood why my wife liked the color. That and hides all imperfections quite well. Only draw back is that I can't get the depth or wet looks that black color vehicles get but if I detail it properly I can get some nice depth to it...well as much as I can for silver.
Try Jeff Werkstatt Acrylic Jett (JW) on the silver car..The stuff is "the bomb".
Nica
Nov 20 2007, 01:49 PM
QUOTE(mburnickas @ Nov 19 2007, 09:45 AM)

Try Jeff Werkstatt Acrylic Jett (JW) on the silver car..The stuff is "the bomb".
I haven't purhcased Wekstatt products but I'm hearing good things about them, may have to just give them a go
mburnickas
Nov 20 2007, 03:38 PM
QUOTE(Nica @ Nov 20 2007, 02:49 PM)

QUOTE(mburnickas @ Nov 19 2007, 09:45 AM)

Try Jeff Werkstatt Acrylic Jett (JW) on the silver car..The stuff is "the bomb".
I haven't purhcased Wekstatt products but I'm hearing good things about them, may have to just give them a go :cheers:
I would not use anything but. They are my "go to" product. A little goes a LONG way! like
2 to 3 drops for doors,
4 to 5 drops for hood etc.
Lexus300Stock
Feb 2 2008, 07:43 AM
Zaino FTW!!!!! i love zaino.. i also love Klearkote...!! both are great!!!! i use a porter cable buffer too..
mburnickas
Feb 2 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(Lexus300Stock @ Feb 2 2008, 08:43 AM)

Zaino FTW!!!!! i love zaino.. i also love Klearkote...!! both are great!!!! i use a porter cable buffer too..
Try JW, CG, Danase and some others. They might be better for you then zaino. Zaino is good but there are better products out there.
jcrome04
Feb 2 2008, 07:11 PM
Rotary buffers are dinosaurs. Should be dead technology.
Look into a Cyclo Dual head Polisher. 10x better than any rotary and 100% worry free! ZERO burns ZERO swirls and AMAZING rezults!!!!!
Lexus300Stock
Feb 2 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(mburnickas @ Feb 2 2008, 11:27 AM)

QUOTE(Lexus300Stock @ Feb 2 2008, 08:43 AM)

Zaino FTW!!!!! i love zaino.. i also love Klearkote...!! both are great!!!! i use a porter cable buffer too..
Try JW, CG, Danase and some others. They might be better for you then zaino. Zaino is good but there are better products out there.
u got a link ?
ting915
Feb 11 2008, 01:05 AM
wow, that look so much better! :]
mburnickas
Feb 11 2008, 05:34 AM
QUOTE(jcrome04 @ Feb 2 2008, 08:11 PM)

Rotary buffers are dinosaurs. Should be dead technology.
Look into a Cyclo Dual head Polisher. 10x better than any rotary and 100% worry free! ZERO burns ZERO swirls and AMAZING rezults!!!!!
Rotary buffers are not dangerous or dinosaurs. Maybe you do not know how to use one correctly. It is a powerful tool that many users cannot handle. You can correct a car faster then any cyclo my friend. Time is money and the outcome, if you use it correctly, will be the same as you posted.
jcrome04
Feb 17 2008, 12:40 PM
No matter how you use a rotary buffer you WILL create swirls, that's what they do.. Depending on the skill and technique of the user (how the angle the buffer, etc..) they will be able to control where and how severe the swirling is.
If you prefer the Rotary buffer, by all means that's fine. It's just that in my experience as a professional detailer the Cyclo dual head polish is just as, if not MORE, effective as the rotary buffers, without ANY worries of ill effects.
Some people also think the Cyclo dual head is not as effective because most "cheaper" dual heads are slower than buffers. The Cyclo spins at 3,000 OPM (orbits per minute) just as the buffers 3,000 RPM.
mburnickas
Feb 17 2008, 02:59 PM
QUOTE(jcrome04 @ Feb 17 2008, 01:40 PM)

No matter how you use a rotary buffer you WILL create swirls, that's what they do.. Depending on the skill and technique of the user (how the angle the buffer, etc..) they will be able to control where and how severe the swirling is.
If you prefer the Rotary buffer, by all means that's fine. It's just that in my experience as a professional detailer the Cyclo dual head polish is just as, if not MORE, effective as the rotary buffers, without ANY worries of ill effects.
Some people also think the Cyclo dual head is not as effective because most "cheaper" dual heads are slower than buffers. The Cyclo spins at 3,000 OPM (orbits per minute) just as the buffers 3,000 RPM.
I do not understand it. I have used a rotary for over 12+ years. When used correctly, it will NOT create them. If they create swirls you or the users is not using it correctly and thus should not be using one. That is why some new detailers think they have to worry. If you are worried, you should not be using it. I do not, again NOT worry about burn-in, damaging paint, anything since I know how to use it.
I have used a cyclo and it will again not correct a car as fast, that is a fact. I know this since I tried it several times on several cutomers cars. Paints with hard paint a cyclo for me is not worth the time. Lexus's paint is very soft and it is easy to use anything from machine to by hand. I was also going to buy one but it was not worth my time/month. Time is money with cars and a rotary is well the time when again people want there cars done ASAP. Plus if I can fit 2 cars in (cyclo) or 3 (makita), well that is a no brainer. One is an extra $200+ on a saturday.
I also do not get that you can be a professional detailer when you think wax cannot be layered also. It seems you are fairly new in the area and I strongly suggust you do not use a rotary till you have years under your belt.
BlkLexus20
Feb 17 2008, 03:41 PM
QUOTE(mburnickas @ Feb 24 2007, 05:12 PM)

Very Nice!
hybridamp
May 24 2008, 07:46 AM
That's pretty impressive, beautiful.
mburnickas
May 24 2008, 12:12 PM
QUOTE(hybridamp @ May 24 2008, 09:46 AM)

That's pretty impressive, beautiful.
Thanks. Here is after 10 months in XXXXX and 25,000+/- miles and NO detailing inbetween. Lets just say the yellow clay was black and boy I love JW stuff! In fact this was after another 28 hours drive back up North to buy a house (and that is 2,150 miles) LOL

AtomicDog
Jun 23 2008, 11:48 PM
What are CS , JW prime and selant, and CG5050 wax?
SW03ES
Jun 25 2008, 12:14 PM
Check out the detailing forum
Lexus GS430 Guzzler
Aug 1 2008, 03:07 AM
Klasse All-In-One Polish/Sealant, Followed by Soverin Carnuba Wax
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